Liz and her husband are expecting their third baby, a little green bean š± (=gender unknown)! This little one joins big brothers:
X@vi3r Ern3st J@m3s
Eug3n3 Andr3w J0hn
(Alt characters used for privacy)
Absolutely fantastic names, and unexpected for brothers!
Liz writes,
“We are expecting our third in early August. Gender unknown. I have been thinking for some time that I must get in touch, but the main reason that I havenāt yet is that we really have no short list!!!
Weād like something familiar but not super popular that doesnāt seem out of place with the boysā names. Most Traditional names seem a bit boring. Iād like a Catholic connection.
Iām Catholic, Hubby is not. We have different interest levels and expectations of names, which is where the difficulty lies. He is happy to choose a name, because he likes it, and thatās it. Heās not interested in popularity, honour names, meanings, middle names, initials [though names with some link to a superhero character or a significant player for the Pittsburgh Penguins might appeal to him.]. He tends to like simple, recognisable names; Oliver, Jack, Lilly. In contrast, I am a complete name nerd, and I like lots of significance behind a name. Nothing made up, but not too popular either. We are in the UK. Latest data was that X@vi3r was 200ish and Eug3n3 wasnāt in the top 1000.
X@vi3r (Zay-vee-er) = born on the feast of St Frances Xavier, I like the Frances/Francis link to Pope Francis although I understand he is named after St Francis of Assisi. Husband likes it because Prof. Charles Xavier is leader of the X-men.
Ern3st = honour name, but not of a person! Before we were married we joked about having a child named Ernie. Because Ernie [rhymes with our last name and] would be a silly name. So X@vi3rās arrival was the fruition of our hopes and dreams.
J@m3s = family name on both sides.
The middle EJ initials are a nod to my initials before I was married, and are my sister in lawās initials too.
If he wasnāt X@vi3r, he would have been James. There were no other boysā names in contention!
We struggled with Eug3n3ās name. Again, we only had two boysā names when we went to the hospital. He was called August (although I much prefer Augustine) for the first few minutes, but it didnāt feel right. August/Augustine/Augustus isnāt in contention for this baby. It feels as if it has been āusedā.
Eug3n3 (You-Jean) = obviously a couple of Popes, saints (one feast day near the due date) and apparently a variant of my mumās maiden name. Eugene is the English translation of Evgeni, who is a hockey player who Hubby admires.
Andr3w = After my husband.
J0hn = family name on both sides.
The initials EAJ are both mine (pre marriage) and my mumās.
So for this baby weāre pretty stuck. The uncommon but familiar is tricky enough, without adding in some of the other stuff Iād ideally like!
Boys:
Middle names will definitely be Simon and Philip, in either order. Neither of these names is a contender for a first name.
Names we canāt/wonāt use:
- Peter
- Matthew
- Joseph
- Gabriel
- Ben-
- Blaise*
- Sebastian*
- Francis*
- Vincent*
*names I particularly like but used by other family members [or otherwise can’t use]. We also wouldnāt repeat any of our sonsā middle names.
Names I have thought about:
Raphael (This is the clear front runner for me. With the spelling variants itās a little more popular than Iād like but not super trendy. The original feast day of 24th Oct would have been my grandfatherās birthday). Hubby doesnāt really like it. But it is the name of a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle so ticks that box!
Other names I have written down but arenāt really contenders:
- Ambrose
- Caspar
- Jago
- Ignatius (this would make my mum really happy but I think itās a very Catholic name and not one that many people (including Hubby) are familiar with. He doesnāt like Nate as a nickname either.)
When we were expecting Eug3n3 I managed to convince myself that Arlo was a good choice (significance via JP2, through Karol and variants of Charles), but I went off it when I realised how popular it is. If we were going to go for popular itās much more likely to be a name thatās consistently up there (like Daniel) than something that seems trendy. Iāve also offered John-Paul as a name but Hubby isnāt keen.
My husband doesnāt like a double-barrelled name. And he doesnāt want to choose a name with the intention of using something else e.g. Margaret called Peggy.
If he had to choose a boys name right now, it would be Sidney. Iām struggling to like it, never mind love it.
Girlsā names:
Hubby’s top choice has always been Thea. Not Theadora, or Dorothea, or Thea-Grace or anything, just Thea. I donāt love it (thereās the God thing, right?), itās very popular (no. 46 I think in the UK), and if there is another one in the class, or she doesnāt like it, or something, these isnāt an obvious nickname.
Having said all that, I am open to the possibility. But I would like to arrive at the hospital with some other option just in case it doesnāt suit (or if Harry and Meghan name their baby Thea!).
Previous contenders:
- Felicity
- Evangeline (after the Johns in our lives? Nicknames like Evie are really popular in their own right here in the UK).
- My absolute favourite is Agnes, but Hubby hates it.
- I used to like Veronica, but itās now the name of a girlfriend in the family.
- Iāve also got Magdalene on my list but Hubby doesnāt like it.
- We both like Wanda (but itās a bit too unusual, and I canāt find a convincing Catholic connection, and apparently it should be pronounced Vanda, and we prefer Wanda as in the fish).
- My slight curveball, and is outside my usual style on so many levels, is Joy. I think it might be nice, after this dreadful year, to have something happy. It also opens up some options for me for significant initials!
Names we canāt use: Martha, Catherine, Alexandra
Iām not worried about middle names; one from a selection including Elizabeth, Philippa, Agnes, Bernadette.
Second middle would be Simon/Simone/Simona [after a dear friend named Simon] (do you have any thoughts? I strongly favour Simon even though itās a boys name! But I donāt really like Simona/Simone, I think it dilutes the honour slightly, and as Simon could be a surname I donāt think it sounds odd as a second middle on a girl.)
Thank you and good luck!“
Every time I read Liz’s email I chuckled as I read her last line: āThank you and good luck!ā Haha!
In regards to superhero and/or Pittsburgh Penguins names, I like Liz’s attempt to find names that her husband can connect to, Iāve done similar things as well! I’m sure you all remember that I love the name Joachim (as Iāve mentioned a thousand times on the blog) and in trying to convince my husband I started searching for athletes with the name because I knew that would be meaningful to him! It didnāt work but he appreciated the effort! āSuperheroā and āPittsburgh Penguinsā are as good a place as any to look! And even Catholic husbands donāt always care about having a Saint name or other Catholic connection ā in fact, how Liz described her husband as being āhappy to choose a name, because he likes it, and thatās it. Heās not interested in popularity, honour names, meanings, middle names, initials. He tends to like simple, recognizable namesā sounds so familiar, many of the men I know approach naming in a similar way!
I absolutely love Liz’s sonsā names ā first and middles ā and all the meaning behind each name, they’ve done a great job finding names that are awesome that Liz’s husband will agree to! (The Ern3st story is so lovely, āX@vi3rās arrival was the fruition of our hopes and dreamsā is just fantastic, I love that Ern3st is very āthemā as a couple.) But trying to figure out the thread that connects X@vi3r and Eug3n3 occupied my entire thought process for days ā theyāre just such different styles that what I came to is trying to find a name (for a boy) in a third style (because Iām nothing if not a sucker for balance and symmetry in naming, which is so completely unimportant but just the way my weird mind works!). But finding a name that truly feels āthird styleā without leaning too far toward X@vi3r or too far toward Eug3n3 is hard!
I do love Raphael, itās totally my style and a name I wish would get more usage, and if Liz’s hubby could get on board Iād be thrilled along with her! But it definitely feels more X@vi3r-ish to me. I could see Raphael nn Ralph being a tremendous ābringing togetherā of both styles, but Liz’s husband doesnāt like bestowing a formal name and using a nickname. Sidney feels more Eugene-ish, but less so ā itās closer to a āthird styleā I think? Maybe? But if Liz doesnāt like, then I definitely think they should keep looking!
Thea and Agnes donāt feel that far apart to me, so Iām not surprised that Liz feels like she’s āok withā Thea, even thought it isnāt her favorite. Itās funny Liz mentioned the āGod thingā with Thea ā a reader emailed me recently asking about that very thing! Iād never thought about it until her question, and my research yielded some cool results. I also recently posted a birth announcement for a little Thea, whose mama loved the name Therese but was afraid of it being mispronounced, and when she heard somewhere that Thea is sometimes used as a nickname of Therese, she was sold on it as a given name in its own right, which I thought was awesome. (Iād never heard of Thea being used as a nickname for Therese, but I can totally see it, especially with the Theresa spelling.) Maybe thinking of it in honor of a St. T(h)eresa/Therese would help Liz? There’s also Servant of God Sr. Thea Bowman. As for Liz’s thought that there isnāt an obvious nickname for a Thea to fall back on, maybe she could think of it as a case of āreverse nicknaming,ā where if Liz’s daughter hated Thea she could go by Theodora or Dorothea or another nickname coming from those names, like Dora or Dot or Teddy. If they wanted to think of Thea as being for a St. T(h)eresa/Therese, maybe Liz could help her daughter consider Tess, Tessa, and Teri?
As for Harry and Meghan, I wouldnāt have thought of that, but Liz is so right! Itās definitely a good idea for expectant British parents to have a second choice for a girl, just in case! In fact, this might be a good exercise for Liz’s husband: If Harry and Meghan name their daughter Thea and therefore itās off the table, what other names(s) would he consider?
I thought Iād go through the other names Liz mentioned, in case my thoughts on them are helpful:
- Simon, Philip: Fantastic middles! I was going to suggest Simon as a first name ā that seems very āthird styleā to me ā but if itās out of the question, Iāll keep moving on!
- Ambrose: Ambrose actually helped inspire one of my ideas below in my āofficialā suggestions!
- Caspar: I thought Liz’s hubby might go for this one, because of Pittsburgh Penguin Kasperi Kapanen.
- Jago: Wow, awesome.
- Ignatius: I love it too! If Liz could get her husband on board with a different nickname than Nate, thereās Iggy and Nash as well.
- Arlo: I really love how Liz explained this: āIf we were going to go for popular itās much more likely to be a name thatās consistently up there (like Daniel) than something that seems trendy,ā I totally get that and think itās smart.
- Felicity, Evangeline, Magdalene: Just lovely names, feminine and faithy.
- Veronica: It’s so frustrating when a name is off the table because of a family member or friend or āotherā!
- Wanda: Iāve never seen anyone consider Wanda! The fact that both Liz and her hubby like it is amazing! I couldnāt find any really strong Catholic connection either, but the fact that the father of the legendary Princess Wanda was King Krak, after whom Krakow is said to be named, could be a nod to any of the Polish Saints maybe? I especially think of John Paul II when I think of Krakow. But they can also let the middle names do the heavy lifting ā any of the names Liz mentioned (Elizabeth, Philippa, Agnes, Bernadette) would do fine, and Simon or a variant provides another wonderful faith connection. Also, from what I can tell their preferred pronunciation of Wanda is the English pronunciation and similar to the French pronunciation, with the Vanda pronunciations being Polish and German, and Iām sure that most anyone encountering Wanda in the English-speaking world will say it with the W. The new Disney+ show WandaVision will help with that, too. So I think they’re good!
- Joy: Joy! Joy is the name on Liz’s list that really sang! I can āhearā it in her voice when she writes! I think Joy is a fantastic idea! It can be Marian (Our Lady of Joy/Notre Dame de Liesse; also Cause of Our Joy/Causa Nostrae Laetitia), and St. Catherine of Siena was called Euphrosyne when she was a child (Greek for ājoyā), and St. Philip Neri is known as the Patron Saint of Joy, so there are a lot of great faith connections! I agree that it would be such a nice name for a babe born during this terrible year.
- Second middle: I strongly favor Simon as well! Though I would totally understand if they wanted to use a feminine variant, since Liz doesnāt want to, and since itās meant to be an honor and she feels the honor would be diluted if they used a variant, I say use the full original Simon!
Whew! I really wanted to be sure to address every angle and offer every thought that came to me when reading the names Liz and her hubby are considering, I hope I didnāt miss anything! Now, on to new ideas!
I did my usual research in the Baby Name Wizard (affiliate link) for this family, but it always feels so inadequate when Iām working with non-American families, since the data used in the BNW is American data. So I didnāt find the results of my research to be terribly helpful, not least because most of my ideas are too popular for Liz’s liking in England (I only looked up the name stats in England, not in the rest of the U.K.), but also because Iām not sure that the style matches in the BNW are style matches in the U.K. So I used a few ideas from my research (which also included looking up some names in the NameMatchmaker tool on babynamewizard.com), but also a surprising number (to me) of names that I stumbled upon here or there somehow that just really seemed like good suggestions. We shall see if Iām right or if Iām totally off base!
Girl
(1) Sibyl
St. Hildegard of Bingen was known as the Sibyl of the Rhine ā that would be a cool name to give a baby girl in her (sneaky) honor! Sibyl has Thora and Theda and Agatha as style matches per the Name Matchmaker — I’m sure if I went through enough pages of results I’d find and Agnes and Thea as well — I think it feels right with the name style Liz and her hubby like!
(2) Cleo/Clio
I was so intrigued to discover that Cleo is a match for Ignatius, Arlo, and Sidney! Wow! I knew nothing about the name, but in looking it up I was delighted to discover that itās from the Greek for āgloryā ā what a great meaning!
I was doubly intrigued to discover that Clio is a match for Jago! Iāve never seen Cleo or Clio on any of the parentsā lists Iāve worked with, so these feel like really fresh ideas. Clio is also from the Greek for āglory,ā but I wanted to give it its own paragraph because Abby from Appellation Mountainās daughterās name is Claire Caroline Wren, and she goes by Clio, which is just so fun and interesting, and because of that (even though itās just one familyās experience/decision and not an objective thing) I thought maybe Liz could also attach any of the Sts. Charles (including John Paul) or Caroline/Charlotte or Clare to Clio as patron.
(3) Ione/Iona
Two more names that sort of shocked me when they were in the BNW results were Ione and Iona! Like Cleo, Ione is a match for Ignatius, and Behind the Name says itās from the Ancient Greek for āviolet flowerā ā how lovely! Violets used to be called Our Ladyās Modesty, and have also been considered to represent her humility, which is why I included Violet in my book of Marian names ā so I think in this case Liz could consider Ione to be Marian!
Iona is a match for Magdalene, and itās the name of the Scottish island where St. Columba founded his monastery, and also where he died. Could be very cool!
(4) Dona
I was sitting at Mass on a Sunday recently trying to pay attention but my mind was wandering to Liz’s name dilemma (God forgive me), so I was sort of on high alert for any mention of anything that seemed like it might be a good fit for this family. We were singing Dona nobis pacem when I thought that maybe Dona would be interesting as a name! Itās Latin for āgiveā or āgrant,ā and I like that itās also similar to Donna, which means āladyā and can be Marian.
(5) Vesper
I admit I was thinking of Liz’s husband here because of the Bond association, which I thought he might like, but Vesper is such a great Catholic name, too: it means āeveningā in Greek and āVespersā refers to Evening Prayer in the Liturgy of the Hours.
(6) Remy, Romy
I originally had Remy on my list for this family for a boy (which I still like), but then I thought maybe for a girl? Itās a short form of Remigius, and thereās also a (male) St. Remy, but it can also be a nickname for Remedios, which gives it a Marian spin: Remedios is Spanish for āremediesā and refers to the titles Our Lady of the Remedies, Our Lady of Good Remedy, and Our Lady of Good Remedies.
Remy reminded me of Romy, which is a nickname for Rosemary ā it could be a pretty, short-and-sweet nod to Our Lady!
(7) Others
These arenāt really suggestions, because they were all too popular for what Liz said she’d like, but I wanted to list them anyway because I thought they might strike a chord with her and/or her hubby:
- Lola
- Lucy
- Rita
- Gwen
- Margo
- Merry
- Marion
Boy
(1) Inigo
In working on this, I discovered something I never knew: St. Ignatius of Loyolaās birth name was ĆƱigo, which is unrelated to Ignatius, but he changed it to Ignatius in honor of St. Ignatius of Antioch, and because ĆƱigo and Ignatius are similar in appearance and sound and they both belong to St. Ignatius, theyāre often taken to be variants of each other. So interesting! And Inigo (the English variant with no accent or tilde) was, according to Behind the Name, āwell-known in Britain due to the 17th-century English architect Inigo Jones. He was named after his father, a Catholic who was named for Saint Ignatius of Loyola.ā Isnāt that awesome?! Iām loving Inigo for this family! AND the Princess Bride connection (āI am Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to dieā) could be perfect for Liz’s husband! Another awesome thing is that Behind the Name says ĆƱigo is the medieval form of Eneko, which might translate to (from Basque) āmyā plus a diminutive suffix. So maybe āmy little oneā? Which is so sweet!
(2) Milo
Milo is a style match for Thea, Caspar, Arlo, and Daisy (which Liz had separately said her husband likes) ā I thought that was pretty great! You all know how much I love Miles and Milo because of their history of usage as anglicizations of the old Irish name Maolmhuire, which means āservant of the Virgin Maryā ā such an awesome, unexpected, under-the-radar way to give a little boy a Marian name!
(3) Linus, Lando
Linus is a match for August and Arlo, and I see it being used a bit more by the families I work with than I ever had before. Pope St. Linus was the second pope! And St. Irenaeus said that that Linus was the Linus mentioned in 2 Timothy 4, which is pretty cool.
Lando is also a papal name (he was also known as Landon and Landus), and while he wasnāt a Saint, Liz’s husband might appreciate the connection to Lando Calrissian in Star Wars. To get really geeky for a minute, I just read that Lando Calrissian, whose given name was Landonis Balthazar Calrissian (!), was born on a planet called Socorro, which is one of the entries in my book of Marian names! Socorro is āhelpā in Spanish ā Our Lady of Perpetual Help is Nuestra SeƱora del Perpetuo Socorro. I donāt know how this bit of knowledge is helpful at all though, haha!
(4) Cyril
Cyrus is a match for Agnes and Cyril for Ignatius, but I donāt think Cyrus flows well with Simon as either a first or second middle name, so Cyril is my suggestion here. Not only is Cyril a Saintās name, but itās also derived from the Greek for āLordā (like Kyrie), so it can also nod to Jesus.
(5) Elliott
Elliott is a match for Oliver, and Ellis and Everett are both matches for Sidney, so I thought maybe Liz’s hubs might like Elliott, which would be cool because Elliott is originally a diminutive of Elias/Elijah, and I included them all in my book because of Elijahās connection to Our Lady: Carmelite tradition holds that Elijah understood the cloud he sees in 1 Kings 18 to be a symbol of the Virgin Mother who would bear the Messiah.
(6) Grant
As Dona means āgiveā or āgrantā in Latin, I thought maybe Grant would be a name Liz and her hubs would like to consider. Itās nickname-proof and Liz can assign it the meaning of āGrant us peaceā in the Mass.
(7) A āBā name
Because of the superhero thing for Liz’s hubby, and the fact that she likes Blaise, I thought maybe a name beginning with B would be cool, since their last name begins with a B ā alliterative first+last combos can come across as really superhero-ish (like Peter Parker). Some I thought of for this family are:
- Bram: I love Bram! Itās a short form of Abraham, which gives it a nice faith connection in a sort of hidden way. Itās also the name of the author of Dracula, which makes it seem kind of like a contrary choice, which is the word that came to mind when I was thinking of Liz’s husband’s taste: he seems sort of contrary. So maybe Bram is great! I’ve often thought it can be a nickname for Ambrose as well — maybe in this instance, Liz could consider Bram to be a nod to St. Ambrose.
- Basil: Basil is a match for Magdalene and there are a lot of holy men named Basil! I quite like St. Basil the Great.
- Blaine: Blaine is almost exactly Blaise, but without the “fire” sound (which is problematic with their last name). I actually just looked through the B section in the BNW for ideas, and I thought Blaine was a great one. Thereās a St. Blane, whoās also known as Blaan, Blan, and Blain, and his feast day is August 10 ā near Liz’s due date!
(8) Others
Like with the girls, there were some boy names that I wanted to suggest that didnāt quite fit for one reason or another (popularity, or that Liz doesnāt care for last names as first names, or theyāre too long to not go by a nickname), but I wanted to include them here just in case:
- Hugo
- Oscar
- Thaddeus
- Barrett
- Bartlett
And those are my ideas! What do you all think? What names would you suggest for the little brother or sister of X@vi3r and Eug3n3?
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For every pregnancy I had, my dad tried to convince me of the name Sidney (āworks for either a boy or a girlā) for the same reason (the Penguins player). In fact, I even considered Crosby (that playerās last name) for my first son because I thought it was cool, went with Kristy and had the same number of letters, beginning and ending. Even more so when I went into [false] labor with him AT a Penguins game! But while I love that sport and team too, I just couldnāt do Sidney because there is an ex- in our family with that name. Itās is a good name though. Could go by Sid or Syd. I think Sid Simon has good flow, even Sidney Simon, of course with Philip as the 2nd middle.
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It’s hilarious and awesome that you grappled with Sidney as well, for the same reasons!!
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There may someday be a Saint Wanda. https://www.ncregister.com/news/beatification-cause-of-reputed-stigmatist-tortured-by-stalin-s-secret-police-opens
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Oh this is great!!
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Ok, I love Sidney for them! Of your other boy suggestions, I like Bram, too. Something else: what if they went for just straight up Pitt? Not trendy or popular but not weird. Gets his hockey connection and a name like Pitt also reminds me of a superhero name. Also, Pittsburgh has such a rich Catholic history! I donāt think Pitt is a thing at all in the UK either.
For girls, I adore your suggestion of Sibyl! An aside, my husband also likes Daisy. Those simple white flowers remind me of Joy and of Our Lady, so maybe thereās something there.
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Pitt is so intriguing!! And I agree about Daisy, so beautiful (it’s in my book of Marian names!).
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I love Sidney. It was my grandfather’s name. I think Sid is both super cute for a little boy and strong and masculine for an adult.
Would they consider Sydney for a girl? Sydney Elizabeth Simon would be a great name.
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This is all great!
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I love Thea and Wanda! So much that I didn’t want to read Kate’s suggestions. But of course I did, and I think the suggestions are brilliant too! Sibyl, Cleo/Clio, Iona/Ione are my favorites there, though Vesper is pretty snazzy and Merry (Meredith or Mirren?) or Marion are fantastic too! Linus and Lando really jumped out at me from the boys side. (X@vier was in the running for our second son and I thought it was between X@vier and Galen for me, but during the very last pushes, the name Lachlan came out of my mouth, so we don’t have a Xave. It makes me extra excited to see you used it! Mirren is what I would’ve named our first if he had been a girl.)
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I’m so glad you commented — it sounds like you have a similar style to these parents, very helpful!!
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My first thought for a boy was Casey. It has a Pittsburgh Penguins connection, a TMNT connection, a faith connection, and is a third style. I think it sounds great with the brothers’ names, and is recognized without being heard everywhere. Kapaun could be a nod to Kapanen.
I really like Sidney and Raphael with the other kidsā , and would like to suggest Ace as a nickname for Ignatius.
From Kate’s suggestions, I love Linus and Blaine.
A Penguin connection for a girl could be Cecilia for Ceci, but it’s probably too popular.
Maybe they’d like Caro as a nod to Captain Marvel and JPII without the popularity of Caroline. Or maybe Lois.
Thea, Joy and Evangeline are all great! (As a side note: X@vi3r, Eug3n3, and Joy is a lot of fun to say!)
Wanda definitely stands out. It sounds great with the sibling names, and will probably see more usage thanks to the Marvel world, so they would just be ahead of the curve. I love it with Philippa and Simon as middle names. I also would lean toward Simon over it’s feminine forms.
From Kate’s suggestions, I really like Sibyl (although Hilde or Hildi could also work), and Clio
Casey S.P. Cecilia P.S.
Kapaun S.P. Caro P.S.
Ignatius S.P. āAceā Hilde P.S.
Victor S.P. Lois P.S.
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Love. All of this.
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Has this mom written to Swistle before?? I swear Iāve read the āsuperhero/Penguinsā preference before and have a hard time believing there is more than one family with that story but perhaps Iām wrong š
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Yep, good memory! She wrote Swistle, looking for suggestions when she was pregnant with Eug3n3: https://www.swistle.com/babynames/2018/04/16/baby-boy-or-girl-ernie-with-a-b-sibling-to-xavier-christian-superhero-baby-names/
I donāt really have any suggestions to add, except that while I donāt love Sidney for a boy, I do think Sydney or Sidonie is cute for a girl.
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Haha great memory!! You’re right!!
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Some random thoughts for boys names that I can see fitting in:
Jasper
Leo
Carlo / Carlos
Jeremy
Louis
Felix
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Some great ideas here!
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Raymond Phil1p Sim0n
I love the name Raymond. And the other two names, too!
Oooo! And The Ray is a Superhero, apparently! Win-win!!
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I think your suggestion is perfect! Raymond fits so well with the older boys’ names.
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The Ray! Perfect!
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I agree that a B name would flow well if bub is a boy. Or even Sebastian nickname Bash, or Karl as a nod to St John Paul II.
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Sebastian nn Bash is so great!
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Boy:
Lawrence (saint +”old man”)
Vincent
Magnus (just because it sounds similar to Agnes)
Girl:
Lois
Petra
Flora
Mattea (for Thea)
Angela
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Or Bridget/Brigid
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Magnus because it sounds like Agnes is brilliant!!
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