I posted some photos of a beautiful stained glass window depicting St. Ann(e) on Instagram earlier this evening (here and here), and found it notable that “St. Ann” was written beneath her image, and then “In memory of Mrs. Anne Quinn” — both spellings on one window.
So I asked how many prefer Ann or Anne and have gotten several responses (Anne by a landslide, which was my grandmother’s spelling, and the one Anne Shirley vastly preferred, and the spelling I always unconsciously default to, though I’m delighted that one follower let us know her middle name is Ann, which is the spelling of my best friend from growing up’s middle name, and she’s an amazing person, so — good company!). I also posted a poll to Twitter and so far everyone’s voted for Anne (three people).
I looked them up, and Anne is the “French form of ANNA. In the 13th-century it was imported to England, where it was also commonly spelled Ann.” Indeed, Ann is described as the “English form of ANNE (1). In the English-speaking world, both this spelling and Anne have been used since the Middle Ages, though Ann became much more popular during the 19th century.” I checked out the Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources to see if there was additional info, and discovered the name Tanneken! It’s a diminutive of Ann(e) — I’m loving it! It’s totally the kind of nickname/diminutive that I go nuts for.
Any of you who haven’t yet commented on IG or voted on Twitter — which spelling do you prefer and why?
Anne was my confirmation name, in honor of my two great-grandmothers, Anne Elizabeth and Elizabeth Ann. Anne is the French form and my family (although deriving from many cultures) had a large part of French ancestry so I have always preferred the ‘e’ spelling. Plus, of course, the character of Anne Shirley cemented that. Anna seems to be more popular in Polish, another ancestral culture of my family’s.
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I love that your grandmothers were Anne Elizabeth and Elizabeth Ann! I never knew that!
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Great grandmothers…I never knew them. My other two grandmothers were Felecia and Leona (names that are def. making comebacks!)
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Oh sorry, I totally misread … and now that you clarify, I did know those were your grandmothers’ names! So cool, both of them!
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Earlier today, I was looking at the medal that I got from the prayer card from you, from when you went to the shrine of St. Anne, and I totally just noticed that on the medal, it says St. Ann! So, I’ve been thinking a lot today about the two different spellings 🙂 As I said on Instagram, I like Anne better. Someone else commented saying that they thought it looked more symmetrical, and I think that is why I like Anne better as well as it looking more complete!
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I love that you were looking at the medal today! Yes, I haven’t found either Anne or Ann to be predominant when it comes to St. Anne(e) — I see them both. I live close to Canada, so I think the French spelling is more common here, but even then I do see Ann, and St. Elizabeth Ann Seton is a great reference for that spelling too.
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Anne by FAR. Ann seems to have something missing. Although I will say that when my mom read Anne of Green Gables to me when I was 8, after we saw the miniseries, she remarked that she’d never heard of the -e spelling before and it does seem true that all the Anns we knew at that time (all older ladies) had no “e”. So I guess the Ann spelling was pretty popular there in the earlier 20th century, at least here in the western US.
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Something missing, like an E, perhaps?! 😂
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Hahaha!
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Oh funny!
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I definitely prefer Anne as a first name. However, for some reason I like either one, maybe even Ann a bit more, in the middle spot. Maybe because the very short names often look so nice there?
This also made me think of Lynn(e). My middle name is Lynne, same as my mother’s MN. Growing up I seemed to be in the minority there (I had a couple friends with Lynn middle names).
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Oh yeah, Lynn(e)’s a great example! I also like your distinguishing between Anne for a first name and Ann for a middle, that’s interesting!
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One of my daughters has the middle name Ann, and we chose it bc that was how her paternal grandmother spelled it, but I do like it as the middle especially because her first name and our last name are on the longer side. But if I was using it as a first name, I would lean toward Anne, I think for the symmetry. Funny to think about, because I don’t know that I would change the spelling of any other name based on first vs. middle….
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I know, that is funny!
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It’s hard to get a good sense of what spellings are English, what spellings are French when you’re looking at the 13th and 14th C, because most of our records are in Latin, so the name will be spelled Anna. The vernacular forms represented this bisyllabic form — even Anne would’ve been pronounced with two syllables. It wasn’t until the 16th C that you really start seeing Ann in English — where you’ll se it along with the form An!
So, I’d say Anne has equal claim to being both French and English, but Ann is definitely a specifically English form.
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I was wondering this very thing — if Anne was originally said Anna (or Ann+schwa), because in French that’s the case right? Or at least sometimes? That final e is pronounced?
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No, it’s silent. But in French they pronounce a final consonant that is followed with a silent “e” really clearly, as opposed to making it nasal if there’s no silent “e”. To English speakers, this can almost sound like a schwa ending, but it’s just a very clear consonant. In some dialects of French (in some African countries), it is emphasized even more strongly. I had a French professor at university who was from Africa and he did almost seem to add a schwa at the end of every silent “e” word, but even with him, it was subtle, and that’s probably the most pronounced case I’ve heard in all my French studies.
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Thanks Grace! I love languages.
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I love languages, too!
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Of course! 😀
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Really love Anne! Reminds me of how much I love Eve but Anne is so saintly. Just reading this makes me think, hmm, maybe Andrew and Anne isn’t too close to be useable.
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Aw Anne is so beautiful — simple and classy! It worked for Raggedy Ann and Andy 🙂
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I would totally have to get them the dolls! Luckily we don’t call Andrew Andy so it wouldn’t be quite that close. I’d say if there were children between it would be more usable, but as we were saying the other day there is no way to count on another baby, much less girl, coming!
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Ohh that would be so cute!! The dolls!! If you really wanted Anne, so you could also move Andrew toward “Drew”? Or is he not a Drew?
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I think he could be a Drew. I call him that occasionally and it was the agree to nickname when we had him. Right now my husband and the kids call him Boo mostly so Annie would be no problem at all!
I’m not sure where this comment will be placed as I didn’t see a reply next to the transition him to Drew comment.
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This is so great! So Anne/Annie’s a real possibility for you!!
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Maybe it is. Thinking Annemarie might make it a little less close. Of course I have to convince hubby to budge from Lucy!
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And back more on topic, I’ve always though Annmarie looked really awkward.
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That’s so funny!
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(had a login issue so if my comment appears twice… I apologize!)
I’m Ann with no e, named by request of my maternal grandmother. My mom’s middle name is also Ann. No idea why that spelling was picked! I go exclusively by Annie, and I have for my whole life, so I don’t particularly love just Ann, because I’m not used to it… Though together with my middle name I think it is quite nice (Ann Kathryn). I’ve always wondered if I would find it less plain if it were spelled Anne, but I guess I’ll never know! My last name is monosyllabic as well so it’s possible I would still find it too short a combination if that makes sense.
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I’m so glad you shared your Ann experience! So funny your grandmother wanted the Ann spelling, if you ever find out why I’d love to know! Maybe she had a bad experience with Anne? I love your full name — I feel like Ann and Kathryn suit each other! I also loooooove the nickname Annie!!!! (Fun and funny fact: My grandmother and my great-grandmother were both Annie Oakley!)
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I don’t think that my Babcia specified that my parents should name me Ann (no e) — just that I should be named after St. Ann(e), to whom she had a very strong devotion after having her prayers for children answered 🙂 But she had used no-e Ann for my mom’s name, so I’m assuming my parents just followed suit!
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Ohh ok, gotcha! So lovely you and your mom have the same name, and that it’s in honor of St. Ann(e)! (Aw, your Babcia. ❤ )
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Just love Anne, as Grandmom presented her name…Grampa called her Annie…always loved it. The Irish form of Aine* (sounds like On-ya)…so beautiful…
so lovely St. Anne is your blog’s patron saint!
* can’t seem to type in the accent over the A_
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Tanneken…sooo grand!!!
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Right? So cute!
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I already “voted” on Instagram for Anne. My younger sister is Anne and I helped name her when I was 10. We specifically preferred the “e” spelling. An interesting aside. My sister has experienced a bit of being called Annie, especially in high school. It wasn’t a nickname, there were some people who legitimately thought the “e” had a sound…
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Ha! That’s so funny! My last name is sometimes mispronounced “townee” — people don’t know what to do with that final -e! You had great name taste for a 10yo!
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Oh, this is a toss-up for me! My mother’s middle name is Ann, my little sister’s first name is Anne, and my new niece has Ann as a middle name in honor of my mother. I always preferred Anne but Ann actually seems really sweet now that’s it’s on a new little one. 🙂
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Isn’t that always the way! I love that too, the names that I’ve come to love because they belong to beloveds!
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I prefer Anne. It looks a lot prettier and more complete than Ann. I like Anya/Anja, Anneliese, Anastasia, and Annika even better. 🙂
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Sooo many great Ann- names, I love them too!
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I know, right? A lot of Ann/Anne names are pretty! 🙂
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I prefer Anne; though I should disclose my bias, as I named my daughter Anne.
Btw, She H-A-T-E-S when people call her “Annie.”
Being a bit OCD, it drives me crazy to see something written as “St Ann” when it is clearly “St Anne” on the item… attention to detail already. lol
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I know this is an old post, but someone just posted it so I wanted to add my two cents. 😊 Between “Anne” and “Ann,” I definitely prefer Ann. It just seems like the more traditional way, and that’s my older sister’s middle name. But my preferred form of the name overall is “Anna,” and if we ever have another girl that will likely be her name!
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I love Anna too!
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I was given the middle name Ann, after my mother whose middle name is also Ann. My Irish grandmother explained that is the English way, and since we aren’t French, well, we didn’t get an “e.” My mother and I both prefer Ann, especially since our surname is English as well.
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