Baby name predictions: Patton Baby No. 8!

Happy Lundi Gras (Mardi Gras’ little-known sister)! 😂 Of course by the time you read this it probably *will* be Mardi Gras, since it’s taken me allll dayyyy to get this up due to my little stinker Luke who refused to nap.

I’m super excited to share my predictions for our buddy Grace Patton’s new baby, due in June!! I’m calling them predictions rather than suggestions since I’ve previously done two consultations for Grace (here and here), and been so surprised by the names she and her hubby ended up giving the babies (which is something I LOVE – being surprised by names never ceases to thrill me!) … so I feel like I don’t really have anything to offer the Pattons! They are Baby Naming Royalty, as far as I’m concerned, and I can’t wait to hear what they name this little green bean! (=gender unknown 🌱) (I posted birth announcements for babies five, six, and seven as well.)

But of course I can’t stop my namey head from trying to get in their headspace and predict what names, or kinds of names?, they might choose! So first off, as a refresher, Baby’s big brothers and sisters are:

Julia Grace
Sebastian Xavier (Bash)
Theodore Augustine (Theo)
Phoebe Anika
Bosco Ignatius
Abraham James (Abe)
Clement Joseph
+Felipé (with Jesus)

Amazing names, each one! ❤ ❤ ❤ I did chat with Grace a little bit recently about names for this baby-on-the-way, and she said,

We really are kind of coming up empty-handed, honestly! We feel like we are completely out of boy names (of course we aren’t — just will take some digging/thinking — and Simon prefers to chat about names on the way to the hospital, ha!) and understand why my mom used one of my brother’s middle names as a first name (Daniel Peter and then Peter Joseph when she had her fourth boy). So, I’d love suggestions or predictions! Phoebe (at the mature age of 5) is really concerned that any potential girl names, “sound nice with Phoebe and Julia” and so far all she has approved is, “Catherine” — ha! I do love that name but I wouldn’t consider it a frontrunner at the moment.

Because Julia’s middle name is Grace and Phoebe’s middle name is Anika (which means grace) — Simon loves the idea of carrying the tradition on with another middle girl name that also means grace — which I feel less strongly about but am not at all opposed to the sentiment!

If Clement wasn’t Clement I think he would’ve been a Dominic but again, not a frontrunner this time around — funny how that works! Sebastian would’ve been a Vivienne had he been a girl and I think Abe was going to be Iris if he was a girl and I still love those names but I don’t know — we still have months to discuss, I suppose!

Such good info here! I love that Phoebe is concerned that a sister’s name “sound nice with Phoebe and Julia” — I definitely took that to heart when coming up with my list of predictions! (For the record, one of the things I love about her idea of Catherine is that it ends in a different sound than Julia and Phoebe — not so easy to do with girl names, since ends-in-a and ends-in-the-ee-sound are pretty common! You’ll see I included some other differently-ending-names below.)

So we know that Vivienne and Iris were previous frontrunners for a girl, as well as Dominic for a boy. I remember from my previous Patton posts that Caroline and Felicity were also previously discussed, as well as Damian and Simon Jr. (yes, even for a non-firstborn); also no more ends-in-o names for boys either (because of Theo and Bosco).

Since I did two previous consultations, there are a lottttt of names that I’ve already suggested, like:

  • Various ideas for backing into the nickname Lola (Violet, Caroline, Lourdes, Louisa, Lucia)
  • Elisabeth
  • Felicity
  • Stella
  • Emmeline
  • Magdalene
  • Verity
  • Audrey
  • A bunch of Mary/Maria/Marie+ ideas (any of those paired with Olivia or Olive, Ophelia, Simone, Tess, Elliott, Emmett, Bennett)
  • Maximilian nicked Miles
  • Francis nicked Finn
  • Gregory nicked Rory or Gus [Gregory Simon=Gus so perfectly!]
  • Oliver
  • Isaac
  • Gabriel
  • Alexander
  • Nathaniel

(As you can see, there were a couple instances of overlap between names I’d suggested and names they considered! SO exciting!)

There were several that I’d considered that didn’t end up making my final cut, but I think a lot of these still potentially have merit (Grace’s previous idea of Iris is on here! Woo!):

  • Penelope
  • Imogen(e)
  • Genevieve
  • Iris or Ivy
  • Lydia (in BOTH previous consultations)
  • Corinne
  • Liv
  • Alice
  • Zara
  • Natalia
  • Tobias (too much long O probably)
  • Tristan
  • Benedict/Bennett and Benjamin
  • Matthias
  • Samuel
  • Henry
  • Elliott
  • Emmett
  • Jude

Whew! This post is a study in New Evangelization Catholic Baby Naming! 💃 💃 💃 What names are left??

I was actually chuckling as I was pulling this post together, because when I do repeat consultations (or “predictions posts,” as I’m calling this one), I always start from scratch, without looking back at my previous ideas. Then I’ll go back and cross off any repeats. When I did so here, it was hilarious to discover that there were SO MANY names I had to cross off of my ideas below! So many that I thought were spot on, but I’d already suggested them previously! (As usual, I looked up the names they’ve already used in the Baby Name Wizard, and I looked through my book of Marian baby names; I also used the Name Matchmaker tool on babynamewizard.com, and spent a bit of time looking for names that mean “grace.” I also looked through a bunch of recent Appellation Mountain posts that list the names that are big on the site that week — I’ve always thought Grace has her finger on “the pulse,” and up-and-coming names would be right in her wheelhouse I think.) After whittling my list down to just new ideas, these are the names that I think Grace and Simon might consider (with, okay, an actual suggestion or two thrown in here and there, I just can’t help myself):

Girl
(1) Charis
I love this idea, it might be my favorite. Charis, which is said like Karis and Carys and is contained within the word Eucharist, means “grace”! In fact, that’s what it means within the word Eucharist! (From Merriam-Webster: “from eucharistos grateful, from eu- + charizesthai to show favor, from charis favor, grace, gratitude; akin to Greek chairein to rejoice.”) I know of a family who named their daughter Charis because of the Eucharist connection, and I really love it for a sister for Julia and Phoebe (it’s got that different ending!). Both Julia and Phoebe have middle names that mean “grace,” but I really like Charis as a first name for this baby. It can certainly work as a middle too, though I found it sort of difficult to work with rhythm-wise. If they prefer it in the middle, I think something with the rhythm of Felicity Charis would sound lovely.

(2) Margo(t)
Margaret didn’t seem quite right to me, but I love its variant Margo(t)! It can take any of the Sts. Margaret as patron, and of course means the same as Margaret — “pearl,” which happens to be June’s birthstone! Kind of a cool connection for a baby due in June!

(3) Maud(e)
When I saw Maud(e) in one of the recent Appellation Mountain posts, I was immediately struck by it. I’ve never, not once, considered or thought of the name Maud(e) for anyone, but for some reason, it really seemed like one Grace might like! It’s a variant of Matilda (in fact, it’s Matilda’s “usual medieval form,” like Austin for Augustine and Bennett for Benedict), which provides a patron saint.

(4) Edith, Esther
Both Edith and Esther have a similar feel to me — names that were too old lady-ish for a baby not that long ago, but that I’m starting to see on little girls more and more. St. Edith Stein is a huge inspiration behind the little Catholic girls I see with the name (she’s amazing), and I love that Esther is biblical like Julia and Phoebe. Edie and Essie are both adorable nicknames too.

(5) Eliza
I’m not sure what to say about Eliza except that it feels like it might be right! I like it on its own for the Pattons (so far they’ve done shorter girl names [letter-wise] while tending toward longer boy names), but I also like it as a nickname for Elizabeth, if they preferred that.

(6) Bernadette, Colette
Grace and her girls recently took an amazing trip to France, so French names were on my mind when I was working on this. I decided that I really like Bernadette for them! It’s definitely an up-and-coming name vintage-y name, as we discussed recently on the blog, and it was also in my recent saintly nicknames post (which I submitted as my February CatholicMom article after incorporating your ideas from the comments). The spotlight I did on it a few years ago has a few nickname options too. I also love (LOVE) Colette … but maybe it’s not quite right coming right after Clement? If that’s not a bother though, it’s such a pretty name, and St. Colette is a great patron.

Before moving onto boy names, I want to discuss more fully Simon’s hope that they’ll give a name that means “grace” to a girl. I searched on behindthename.com and also a general google search for names meaning “grace,” and the results are almost all variants of Grace or contain Grace (like Graciela, Altagracia, and Engracia), or are variants of Anne (since Anne means “grace”). Julia’s middle name nods to the former (being Grace), and Phoebe’s to the latter (being Anika), which is another reason I was psyched to find Charis — it’s in a third category altogether! Another that’s neither Grace nor Anne is Amara, which is Igbo (the language of the Igbo people of Nigeria) for “grace,” and is quite pretty. Otherwise, I think an Anne name is the best bet, since there are a few that are different enough from Anika I think. Like:

Anja or Anya
Anna or Anne
Annabel(le)
Annette
Anouk
Hannah
Nan, Nancy, Nanette
(many others listed here)

If Grace and Simon like the idea of an Anne name, they might like to choose one based on how their chosen first name sounds. Margo Annabelle sounds gorgeous to me, for example, as does Charis Anne and Charis Annette, Maude Annette, Bernadette Anne, Edith Annabelle, Eliza Nanette … so many beautiful ways to put these names together!

Boy
(1) Oscar
Moving onto boy names, I’m seeing Oscar here and there a bit more these days — I’m thinking of it as a recent addition to the Owen, Oliver group (along with Otto). St. Oscar Romero is a great patron, and the inspiration behind the choice of name for this sweet boy.

(2) Vincent, Victor
Vincent and Victor are old school Catholicky Catholic names that I think always wear well. The full Vincent is so handsome, and Vince and Vinny are easy nicknames. Victor is a particular favorite of mine — I tried to convince my hubby of it many times, and I wrote a whole CatholicMom article about it. “Nicknames for Victor” also continues to be one of the most frequent search terms that lead people to my blog, because of this post I did. So fascinating!

(3) Raphael, Ralph
I’d previously suggested Gabriel for them, but since having Abe, Gabe is no longer an option. Raphael’s rarer anyway, and has the cool nickname Rafe. Speaking of Rafe, what do we think about Ralph? I don’t hugely love the “ralf” pronunciation, but I’ve long loved that Rafe is a traditional pronunciation of it (and the one actor Ralph Fiennes uses). Cool? Or too high maintenance? (I remembered that I thought Design Mom has a Ralph, so I looked it up to be sure and hoooooly cow, check out Ralph’s siblings: Maude, Olive, Oscar, Betty, and Flora June. !!! I’ve included Maude, Olive, and Oscar somewhere in this post [either as today’s predictions or previous consultation ideas]; Betty can totally be a nickname for Bernadette; and I’m not joking that I considered the Flora/Fleur/Florence idea before deciding not to include it here. Wow. Spot.On.) I’ve recently come to love St. Ralph Sherwin, which is another plus in Ralph’s favor.

(4) Bear
This is another backing-into-a-name-from-a-nickname idea. Animal names — like Fox and Bear — are big right now, and I considered Bear myself as a nickname for Benedict Gerard — I thought that was so cute! And I already liked Benedict as an idea for another Patton boy. Arthur is another that I’ve seen people using Bear as a nickname for, since Arthur is said to have “bear” as part of its meaning — Arthur has a very Design Mom feel to me, so maybe?

(5) Joaquín
Grace has a little Spanish flair to her style, as seen in sweet Felipé’s name. Joaquín takes its cue from that, being the Spanish form of (my beloved) Joachim, and also the fact that it’s not as unfamiliar as Joachim — Joaquin Phoenix and Kelly Ripa’s son Joaquin are two examples of Joaquins that people might know (especially the former). (If they want to consider Joachim though, you know I’m all over that!!)

Those are all my predictions for boy names, but I couldn’t resist offering this list of long, saintly names that Grace and Simon might consider for middle names (they’ve already used Xavier, Augustine, and Ignatius): Emmanuel, Thaddeus, Ambrose (ooh this might make a great first name for them?), Maximilian, Chrysostom, Athanasius, Matthias, and the once-considered Dominic and Damian.

And those are all the names that I think Patton Baby No. 8 might end up being given! What do you all think? Do you have any predictions or suggestions for the little brother or sister of Julia, Sebastian, Theodore, Phoebe, Bosco, Abraham, and Clement?


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47 thoughts on “Baby name predictions: Patton Baby No. 8!

  1. I was going to suggest Esther! I have a friend with a Phoebe and an Esther which I think sound good together. I like Eliza and Iris too. (They haven’t repeated initials, and E and I haven’t been used!). Victor seems like a great fit for a boy name. Some other ideas: Laurence, Peter (could do Simon Peter after his dad but call him Peter), Linus, Gideon. (And I also thought of DesignMom’s kids when you suggested Maude! I love Flora!)

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  2. I am always a little afraid when Grace and I are pregnant at the same time, because our kiddos have a lot of naming overlap. Not that I know them in real life, though, so it doesn’t really matter. Just waiting for us to use the same name at the same time. 😆

    I would love to see them use Katya or Irene… but I love your prediction of Eliza, and Eliza Irene would be stunning. Maylise/Maelis, Paloma, Geneva, Eden, and Vesper come to mind.

    For a boy, I think they’re overdue for Simon as a middle. I can see Oscar or Bennett, but neither of those flow super well with Simon. I’m obsessed with the names Emil and Ansel… those flow better with Simon. Or Ambrose, Jonah, Silas, or Leon.

    Good luck!!!

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    • So funny you should say this, because I almost linked to your birth announcements for an example of a family that has similar taste, AND I considered suggesting Reuben!

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  3. They have an eclectic taste in names! Eliza strikes me as fresh, fun and pretty. I like it with the other girls’ names. For boys, Raphael and Joachim would go well. It was tough to think of any further suggestions. Perhaps Walter for a boy and Talitha for a girl.

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  4. My 2nd great grandmother was born in Quebec and her name was Marie Rose de Lima but she went by the name “Delima” her entire life! I feel like it fits with some of the sibling names.

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  5. I think a little Raphaël, Gabriel or Henry might suit their boys list!

    If I recall right, Simons moms name was Ann, so maybe the name is already taken by one of the other grandkids…
    Emilia is a beautiful name and suits Julia and Phoebe well. I love Beatrice (Bea) as well! It means “she who makes happy” !
    Joan as middle name, also means Grace and since The Patton Ladies recently went to Paris, it’s a beautiful link to Joan of Arc.
    It’s st Margaret of Scotlands feast on 10june, so Margot would be very good if the baby would be born on that day. But I don’t like the name so much.

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    • You’re right about Ann! Phoebe’s middle is Anika, which is a form of Ann, and Clement was named for Simon’s mom too, in a different way. Lovely idea! I didn’t think of the feminine John names providing the “grace” connection — the meaning of “God is gracious” could work!

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  6. So many beautiful names to choose from! We have a Genevieve (Gigi) so I’m partial to that. We almost used Bernadette and would have called her Birdie. Happy name choosing!

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  7. I just named a baby Edith and have to say that I find it even more delightful than i had expected (and it was at the top of my list)! While I had kind of expected to get middling reactions from others since it is an “old lady” name, most people have had positive impressions, at least as far as they have told me directly 😉 and imo it’s just the perfect fit for a spunky little sister to Julia and Phoebe!

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  8. Wait, Kate, you forgot the Johannes connection–a reader once mentioned Johannes was the perfect masc. Anne variant because it contains Anne and contains its meaning. “God is gracious” includes Grace. Which opens up names like Jane, Joanna, Jeanne, etc.

    Simone would be my top choice. Honors dad, sounds amazing with the sisters (Julia, Phoebe, and Simone ❤), works with Charis as a middle. Simona also nice.

    Charis is phenomenal and woefully underused. I know a Carissa or Corissa who was named for the ‘charis’ meaning.

    Putting squirrelly girl down for nap so typing quick, hope this makes sense!

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  9. For the last several pregnancies we’ve called our unborn baby by the number they fall in the family, in Latin. So #5 was Quintus, #6 was Sextus, etc, until baby was born. My husband was so excited for this last baby, #8, because he called him Octavian. We even joked that if the baby were a boy (and he was), we should incorporate that into the name. We actually didn’t do that because there were other names we loved, although we did consider it. There’s a St. Octavian, and the nickname Tavi is really cute. So, of course that’s the name I think of for 8th babies!

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    • Hmm. The girls like Catherine, huh? Siena seems more like this family’s style. Siena Anais perhaps.

      I wonder if they’d like Claudia. Claudia Caris nn CeCe is fun.

      As for boy options, I feel like this family could pull off some absolutely fantastic names. Titus. Urban. Ambrose.
      Ambrose Gregory
      Titus Jude

      Congratulations!

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  10. For a Boy, Timothy Gabriel or Nathaniel Simon.
    For a girl, another Biblical name, and Joan as a middle (meaning God is gracious, so grace is there, but not so obvious). Candace Joan, Miriam Joan or Rebecca Joan.

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  11. I second Miriam and Esther and REALLY like Iris from their previously considered list. Others I like with Julia and Phoebe are Cecily, Sylvie, Gretel, and Elise.

    On the boys, I second Nathaniel nicked Nat. I also think Ward or Walter would be cool, but that’s more based on Clement than the sibset as a whole. Itd be cool to see Solanus, Blaise and Laszlo in the middle for them.

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  12. My little sister married a “Patton”, no relation, but her 3 are Ira John, Frederic David “Freddy”, and Beatrice Catherine Marcia! Not sure what was going on with that last one, but we call her Bea! I love the science of baby naming! I vote Felix!

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  13. Ooh this is a fun one! Their kids have great names (esp. Sebastian and Clement!)

    I looove Eliza and Colette, and Benedict or Arthur with nn Bear for a little boy is really cute! Bernadette is a recent infatuation (It means brave as a bear!), and Esther, Maude, and Raphael are so deserving of more use!
    Other ideas:
    Catalina, Abigail, Vera, Liesl, Vianney, Gwendolyn, Virginia

    Zachary, Simeon, Phineas, and Pio, Bede, or Aquinas as middles.

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  14. As I was reading the introductory part of your post, the name Charis was the first one that came to mind. Then as i continued reading, there it was — the first name you suggested for a girl!

    I really like Charis Annette, Charis Ann(e), and Charis Nanette for a baby girl.

    The double grace meaning of the names reminds me of John 1:16 — For from His fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.

    Coming after the loss of Felipé, God’s grace seems especially present in this new life that is joining the Patton family.

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    • I was already loving the meaning of the John names (Joan, Jane, etc) as a possibility for fulfilling the “grace” connection — this bible verse is an amazing addition!

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  15. I just adore Bernadette so that and Colette get my vote. Suggesting Anastasia since it has a length similar to Sebastian and Theodore.

    Also suggesting Octavia, it is just swoon-worthy and so fitting for baby #8.

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  16. I like Camille, Irene, Elena, and Matilda. For boys names- I love Jude but it’s too close to Julia? Maybe Gabriel, Anders, Erik, or something else honoring their swedish heritage?

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